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FOP President Kyle Thomas- Episode 23

Legal Chaos Podcast · 1 month ago

The short version: A Dayton police union president defends Flock cameras on a defense-attorney podcast, illustrating how law enforcement frames ALPRs to a skeptical legal audience.

Our Take

Legal Chaos Podcast hosts Nick Gounaris and Tony Abboud, two Dayton criminal defense lawyers, sat down with Sergeant Kyle Thomas of the Dayton Police Department and FOP Lodge 44 president to talk Flock cameras alongside traffic stops and use of force. Credit to them for getting a working officer on record discussing the technology candidly rather than relegating it to a press release. That's useful, because the public almost never hears the internal police-union perspective on why departments want this network of cameras logging every plate that passes.

Our read: when the people defending the technology are also the people deciding how it gets used, the conversation tends to skip the hard questions. Who audits the search logs? How long is data kept, and which outside agencies get a pipeline into it? Dayton residents deserve answers that go beyond "it helps solve cases" — because a tool that can solve cases can just as easily be used to track an ex-partner, a journalist's source, or a protester, with little technical barrier stopping it.

If you want to see whether Flock or other ALPR hardware is already watching your street, check our camera map, and if you'd rather not wait for your city council to ask these questions for you, our take-action page has concrete steps for pushing back.

This is DeFlock The USA’s original commentary. The video above is the work of Legal Chaos Podcast, published on YouTube — full credit to the creator.